As a pastor, it is always such a blessing to have great counselors in our community who can help people heal in a way that is beyond the scope of simple pastoral care. Everyone that I've referred to Phil has left feeling heard and helped in many ways. I'm thankful for the guidance that he's given in very difficult situations and for all the ways that he cares for his clients. Personally, Phil is one of the most discerning, attentive and genuinely compassionate people I know. If you are reading through reviews today because you are hurting and want to get some help, giving the OCC a call is a great step toward healing and health.